r/SipsTea • u/Valuable_View_561 Human Verified • 3h ago
Feels good man Turns out the real flex wasn't building social media. It was leaving before it consumed your entire life.
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u/nelliebullet 3h ago
the older i get, the more “made his money and disappeared” sounds like the true american dream.
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u/freedfg 2h ago
Made his money and lived the rest of his life is literally the goal.
The dragon sickness was literally never the point. And it doesn't even make sense when it has people scamming the public and acting as super villains into their late 80s to 90s.
For what?
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u/Odd_Collection7431 2h ago
yeah it's time we genuinely start shaming people who put wealth above all else. it's pathetic.
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u/WranglerOtherwise885 2h ago
It IS pathetic! Thats why Elon much is the richest man in the world but still the biggest loser on the planet.
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u/Odd_Collection7431 2h ago
remember when people thought that frog bodied freak was tony stark?
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u/What_a_fat_one 2h ago
Then he fired his publicist.
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u/OGConsuela 1h ago
“I was Elon’s PR head when people liked him” has got to be the best point on a PR resume of all time.
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u/invisiblethrowaway9 1h ago
Once he went after that hero who saved the kids in Thailand by calling him a pedo, that was it for me. I could tolerate him being an ashole to his billionaire friends but to come after that guy - that’s just too much!
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u/Adaphion 57m ago
Went after him all because he called his asinine idea to build and use a submarine (which would never have fit in the caves) stupid. Not to mention who tf knows how long it'd take to design, test, and build, even if one could fit.
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u/Odd_Collection7431 56m ago
that's the biggest trick his PR ever pulled, convincing people he isn't a moron.
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u/MonstrousGiggling 34m ago
Thats what it was for me to! And then after that I feel like his whole facade started crumbling away and he started adapting more right wing bullshit.
Personally I still cant get over his elden ring build lmao.
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u/Tangata_Gamer 2h ago
Oh plenty of people still think that, despite all the publicly available evidence to the contrary
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u/new2accnt 57m ago
That's why it's painful to see some otherwise normal-looking individuals still being unabashed elmo fanbois. Especially on YT.
Even before the infamous 2018 Thailand scuba rescue incident, he had already said some rather disturbing things if you paid attention. Plus a number of weird/regrettable situations at his companies reported before 2018 contradicted his curated image of a techno-saint (e.g., working conditions at Tesla).
Add to this the number of times after 2018 when he said some truly dumb sh*t that clearly showed he's just an ignorant idiot cosplaying as an gearhead/tech guy, it should have guaranteed his fall from grace with everyone.
But, no, too many (other) idiots refuse to see anything wrong with him. As if they were members of a cult.
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u/blackfishhorsemen 1h ago
Just goes to show how sad these guys truly are.
He could of kept his mouth shut and ended up being one of the most adored people on the planet but instead his ego crumbled the first time he got told no.
It wasn't even a bad no, it was a thank you for trying to help save these kids, but we can't fit a sub into the cave type no.
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u/Joiabela 40m ago
Yep. It’d be one thing if there were thousands of: Musk Cancer Wing, Musk Community Food Distribution Center, Musk Free Clinic, Musk Scholarships…all over the world. But no. None of that mamsy pamsy help mankind kind of bullshit for him! It’s all about making him richer.
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u/EconomicRegret2 2h ago
start shaming people who put wealth above all else
Doesn't work. Nobody will hear nor see you: they control the media and social media, politicians and political candidates, campaign funding, lobbying, ads, publishers, etc.
What to do? General boycotts specifically targeted at misbehaving/greedy billionaires'/millionaires' businesses, and, for the courageous and the willing to sacrifice: targeted general strikes (i.e. a general strike that specifically targets certain businesses without harming the rest of the economy, i.e. all workers in the country ignore tasks related to these businesses, including e.g. postal workers, constructors, dock workers, etc.).
I don't see any other way.
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u/xixipinga 1h ago
the american dream shifted from "have enough to eat and not be a slave to some king or dictator" to "make sure nobody else has enough to live and act like a tirant in your own company"
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u/Lord_Emperor 1h ago
Needs to go way beyond shaming.
They own Reddit, so you get a ban if you say exactly how far though.
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u/King_of_the_Kobolds 39m ago
We'll leave it at 'shaming' to not make anyone sensitive up at reddit headquarters cranky.
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u/thatsnothewayitfeels 2h ago
My name is Ozymandias, king of kings. Look upon my works ye mighty and despair.
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u/Train_Wreck_272 2h ago
For a certain type of person, the world's just a game and dollars are points. The leaderboard is all that matters.
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u/xixipinga 1h ago
for the hope that those finl 5 or 7 billion they steal before they die will finally bring all the joy in life and make up for the 60 years of constant conflict and hidden sadness they felt their entire lives
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u/pcapdata 1h ago
There is a bit from 1984 where a bad guy explains to the protagonist that power is its own end.
And the only way to really have power is by making people suffer.
The pile of gold is a side benefit, the real payoff is getting to burninate the countryside/peasants/people-and-their-thatched-roof-cottages and then saying “Hah, look at those losers, all on fire!”
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u/zterrans 25m ago
I think the point is if they keep accumulating they can keep pretending that some amount will make them happy, but they have completely destroyed any humanity they may have had to get their wealth up that high, so no amount ever will bring them any joy. You'd pity them if they weren't destroying others alongside themselves in the most irredeemable fashions.
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u/duaneap 2h ago
There’s nothing in the traditional “American dream,” about being famous or anything. Or even making more than anyone else. It’s about succeeding on your own merit, regardless of circumstances, and achieving more than you started out with.
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u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch 2h ago
We had a ice breaker at a work event, "What would you like to be famous for?" Most people said something about being some type of entertainer (singer, actor, comedian, etc.), and/or ridiculous wealth. There were two (out of ~25) people who deviated from this.
I said I didn't want to be famous. The other person said they wanted to be famous for curing cancer (so it was cured, not necessarily for the fame itself).
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u/mmasportsmma 39m ago
Funnily Arnold Schwarzenegger in every speech says how he could have never achieved all of his accomplishments on his own but did so with help from many people.
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u/terdferguson 1h ago
Let me make 5-10m and I'll fuck off to an island is my goto joke line with certain family/friends. Its somewhat true though, I would just live off the interest and plan my travel multiple times a year. I may work I may not but I reserve the right to fuck off.
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u/EkbatDeSabat 1h ago
With 5m you're looking at around 200k a year in safe investments which sounds great, but it's definitely not fucking off to an island money and it's still taxed as normal income plus I think 3.8% for investment tax. In this economy that's middle-class-not-struggling money (unless you have kids then good fuckin luck). Which is great, but I'd need a minimum of 10-20 to retire on the interest.
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u/More-Worth441 1h ago
The corporate world calls it 'quiet quitting', Tom calls it 'winning at life'.
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u/Legal-Pea8185 2h ago
yepper stepper. the moral dilemma is cashing out to PE and have them ruin what you built.
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u/fedexpoopracer 1h ago
roy purdy did the same thing. danced his ass off then disappeared to just skate at the skatepark
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u/james_a_hetfield 3h ago
Not only happy looks actually human. Vs whatever this is.
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u/Miserable-Stage-5881 2h ago
Imagine being so socially awkward that people genuinely wonder if you're fucking human or not lol
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u/TheProfessorRad 3h ago
THAT, is a pedophile who just hasn’t been caught yet.
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u/Exciting_Classic277 2h ago
What's crazy is when you hear all the testimonies about how they like knowingly harmed children and suppressed freedom to make more money. And where are the consequences? Idk, in the same bucket as the ones from the Eps-files.
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u/Kasta4 3h ago
I'm convinced becoming ultra-wealthy makes you mentally unwell. A sort of sickness caused by greed that robs them of life's mundane joys and makes every waking moment about acquiring more and more wealth.
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u/Duubzz 2h ago
I always wonder if it’s the wealth that corrupts or if you have to be a kinda shitty person anyway to gain that sort of wealth.
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u/Iamtheoctopus4 2h ago
I think about this a lot too, and I like to believe most people have a moral foundation where they refuse to exploit mass amounts of people for what works out to be essentially meaningless wealth.
I think billionaires have always been fucked in the head.
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u/Magilla-Gorilla-6417 2h ago
I’ve thought about this often as well. I think that there has to be some kind of psychosis to this, whether it’s about wealth, power, fame, whatever it is. There’s a point where most of us will say, well, that’s good and I’m done and walk away. But for these people, enough is never enough.
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u/Harbinger2nd 2h ago
There are plenty of stories about the Crown wearing the king, absolute power corrupting absolutely, and the ends justifying the means. These stories are supposed to be told as warnings, not blueprints.
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u/Throwaway_Consoles 25m ago
I was made owner of a rather large discord server and my first ruling was passing it on to someone else. The mods asked why and I said, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And I am not dumb enough to think I’m somehow magically immune and I don’t want to become corrupted”
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u/robibuni 1h ago
Definitely fucked in the head.
But even at a smaller scale you can see it. When people started talking about student loan repayment under Biden, I remember saying "I *hope* no one else ever has to go through what I went through. I don't want anyone to have to take out loans" (I say this with a ton of student loans and I work for a research university for PSLF). My friend told me someone else that had recently paid theirs off and said "No. No one gets forgiveness. You took out the loan, you pay it back; they're not predatory, you're just not paying attention".
It struck me as shocking...why wouldn't you want everyone to have an easier go at things?!
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u/MadPorcupine7 2h ago
I think it's both, however I think the really terrible behavior happens after they have truly absurd amounts of wealth. At some point, when you can throw money at any problem to solve it, and you have people to do everything and anything for you, you stop viewing people as humans. I think you just become so wealthy and estranged from from your fellow humans, that you just view them as another resource to be exploited.
Why would you be worried about how the tree feels when you cut it down to build a house? Why would you worry how the poors feel when you fire them? They're not making you money, and they're just resources to be exploited.
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u/AncientSith 2h ago
It's definitely both. You need to be a certain kind of person to squeeze billions out of your fellow man, and having that money will ruin what little decently is left.
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u/rosiet1001 2h ago
I think the vast majority of people with that, many assets are born into it. Thus, they just don't know any different.
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u/MrCockingFinally 2h ago
It's the opposite.
People who are mentally well don't become ultra wealthy. They do what this guy does and enjoy life when they become regular wealthy.
$10 million dollars mean you never have to work again and you live the rest of your life with zero worries about money.
$100 million means you get to live a life of luxury and excess the rest of your life.
No one gets to $1 billion and keeps working to get more because they need more to support their lifestyle.
So only assholes, megalomaniacs, control freaks and the like ever accumulate such levels of wealth.
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u/prepuscular 2h ago
The real answer. Money doesn’t mess you up, the people that are normal just enjoy life before they hit such numbers
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u/CarmenxXxWaldo 2h ago
I think part of them misses that feeling of struggling for the first million. Or some of them never had that struggle and are still chasing the dragon because you have another 10 or 100 million in the bank and you didnt really do anything to make it happen it feels empty. Like if you had to go through a desert for a bottle of water, no other water is going to taste as good as it again. And you can have the biggest water fall and expect it to make you feel a million times better than that water bottle in the desert, but you feel nothing. So now you need a bigger waterfall, but it wont matter. if youre whole life is that one feeling you wont care about any other feeling.
Its like how someone that can buy a nice guitar without sweating it will value that shitty one that worked all summer for more.
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u/Agamotteaux 2h ago
It really makes me wish there was a way to study it or already had studies on it. My ex was “normal” when she was making $100,000/year. When she went from making $100,000/year to $100,000/month, her whole personality and outlook on life changed to narcissism, greed, and using money to solve all her issues. Daughter sad? Give her some money. Valet an option? Take it. Line long? Pay to get to front. Flight uncomfortable? First class. Literally all that stuff most people look at and think “that’s nice but not worth the money or I can’t afford it” she dove head first in. It was weird to me (as her husband who didn’t change at all and still acted like we were poor) to see the change in real time from humble to “holier than thou” in what felt like overnight even though it was over a couple years. She went full on Scrooge McDuck and lost a lot of friends. But it’s okay because she’s friends with other millionaires and billionaires now with the same mentality.
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u/joesaysso 3h ago
Meh, it's not that you got wealthy and all of the sudden you're messed in the head. It's that these people spent their whole lives chasing wealth, driven to succeed. When all you know is the chase, that's all you do.
I'd like to think I'd be a Tom if I got wealthy. Make me wealthy, set my family, for a couple of generations, and piss off somewhere away from all of the noise.
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u/redditcensorsshit 2h ago
Ya when you can buy literally anything you probably can’t find any joy in scoring something on sale or feel good about saving money or thrifting. You are probably just un happy and never satisfied
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u/Cosmocision 2h ago
I think it's more that being mentally unwell in that way is a requirement to be that rich in the first place. Unless you sell a company or some software that did surprisingly well, it's pretty damn difficult to become a billionaire without doing some pretty sociopathic shit.
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u/Odd_Collection7431 2h ago
you can't become ultra-wealthy without already being mentally ill. but yes, it absolutely seems to exacerbate antisocial qualities, narcissism, anxiety, and paranoia.
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u/Egg-of-the-Vulture 2h ago
Being a boss makes you mentally unwell. Everyone is a walking business cost. You start seeing people a financial burden. No wonder they want ai so badly. They won’t have to empathize at all anymore.
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u/tired_Cat_Dad 3h ago
He was my friend on there!
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u/ShockNoodles 3h ago
No way, Tom was my friend, too!
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u/Decent_Relative_4070 2h ago
some guy temporarily broke myspace because he made people friend him and then all of their friends would automatically also friend him
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u/ZeeWingCommander 2h ago
My friend too. Zuckerberg? That guy just starts talking about his shtyle and makes laser noises in my backyard.
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u/Travelin_Soulja 2h ago edited 2h ago
I truly believe most billionaires are addicts.
Look at Zuckerberg. One of the richest men in the world, but he can’t go out in public without being mobbed. He can’t post online without getting absolutely shredded. He’s built himself and his family this beautiful, luxurious, perfectly appointed prison.
Meanwhile, the other Facebook co-founder, you don't know his name - I didn't either, I had to look it up, has a fraction of Zuckerberg's money, but he's galavanting around Southeast Asia. He can live his life, go wherever he wants, do whatever he wants, and still has more money than he could ever spend in multiple lifetimes.
Same thing with Wozniak and Jobs. There are these people who hit “enough,” cashed in, and went and lived.
I think everybody has a number. It varies based on your values, lifestyle, where you live, etc. But there’s some number way below a billion where you never have to work again and can spend the rest of your life doing things you actually care about - family, travel, building stuff, helping people, hobbies, whatever.
And I think there are a lot of people who hit that number - maybe it’s $10 million, maybe it's $50 million, maybe $500 million, whatever - and walked away to live their best life. You never here about these people in the news. No paparazzi follows them. But these are the people we should recognize, the ones we should study, the ones we should try to emulate.
Because with the billionaire class, after a certain point, it stops looking like success and starts looking like poker addicts who won enough to leave the table ten times over… but just can’t stop playing.
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u/TheKingdumb 2h ago
I disagree, these people are the exception. How many billionaires do you know of and can name? 10? 20 max? There's over 3,000 billionaires, and 250,000+ people with $50M or more. The reality is that the vast, vast, vast majority of ultra wealthy people are just disappearing and living their life.
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u/HoneyIShrunkMyNads 1h ago
and tbh for a while there that was an agreement that I think most could swallow. You get to be a billionaire and people won't come after you. Bill Gates had $65 bil when I was growing up and people didn't really seem to mind, if anything thought he was a good person (he's not) for giving his money to trying to cure malaria.
Then you have Elon/Bezos/Musk/Ellison trying to race to a trillion and that's when people start to wake up and see how much of a disease these people are to society.
I'll always say any billionaire got there through unethical means/exploitation of some sorts but there's levels to that shit.
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u/peon2 2h ago
I don't think so, I think it's more of a case of the loud minority.
There are like 3500 billionaires in the world. You mostly hear about a dozen, maybe 2 dozen of them.
The vast majority of them are like Tom and absolutely can walk down the street without anyone knowing what they look like. The ones you know are the ones that are out there intentionally seeking the fame and inserting themselves in every situation for attention. Hell Michele Ferrero was one of the 20 richest people on the planet when he died and his wikipedia page is is like 1 paragraph.
Most of them make their fortune, keep shares in whatever company they started or inherited, hire a new CEO to run the day to day stuff, and maybe show up to 1 board meeting every quarter and spend the other 361 days a year doing whatever they want. The ones that make billions and decide to keep running the company themselves day in and day out are the minority.
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u/opsers 1h ago
They might not speak out publicly, but in the US more and more billionaires are pouring money into politics. Here's one article discussing it and that's nearly half of US billionaires. Just because they're not loud like Musk doesn't mean they're not trying to influence politics.
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u/Groundbreaking_Act44 3h ago edited 2h ago
Proud for him. He knew when to cash out and started enjoying the rest of his life worry free.
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u/Special_Order-937 2h ago
Well, maybe there was one, Chuck Feeney reached about $8 billion and after a family meeting, he and his wife and kids agreed to give it all away to charity and by the time he died, he had less than $2 million left.
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u/006AlecTrevelyan 2h ago
Homer:
You know, Mr. Burns, you're the richest guy I know. Way richer than Lenny.
Mr. Burns:
Yes, but I'd trade it all for a little more.
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u/AgentAxillary 2h ago
MySpace vs. Craigslist
Who would win?
Tom has more friends, but Craig's friends are weirder
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u/SacrificialPigeon 2h ago
Tom looks so much happier than Mark Zuckerberg, He looks as miserable as sin.
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u/mcbeardsauce 2h ago
This man is the yin to the entire tech community’s yang.
He chose a better path in life. Well done sir
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u/SmoothCarl22 2h ago
This should be law. If you make 1 Billion you should be forced to retire. Like keep your Billion, spend it as you wish but your company now will be traded publicly and 30% of profit will be for employees, 30% for investors, and 40% to invest into growing the business.
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u/Ultraworld-Traveler 2h ago
“Don’t tell me what to do that’s communism!” I’m sure will be said in response to your comment.
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u/SorcererSupremPizza 2h ago
Hes talked about coming back but he doesnt seem interested in the current state of things with social media which is fair. Its kind of like The Woz sticking to working in tech education, he has no intention of goong back to computer engineering since the market sucks
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u/fvthebest 1h ago
MySpace was good times. I feel kinda bad the younger generation hasn't really experienced social media how it was in its early days before the algorithm was preying on you and it was mostly just your friends actually...you know...socializing.
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u/Soulmate69 1h ago
He was literally the guy in The Social Network that told Zuck a $Billion is cooler than a $Million
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u/Illustrious_Club5264 1h ago
Tom has the most friends ever in history everyone had Tom as their first friend
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u/IronClaw84 2h ago
That's the thing people don't get about billionaires. They aren't normal. If I gave just about any person on earth 10 million dollars, they'd never work another day in their lives.
Not billionaires. It's never enough.
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u/RobespierreLaTerreur 2h ago
By not attempting to develop the most advanved social network and technologies, and just sitting lazily on his hands instead, he has declared himself an enemy of progress and mankind. The woke radical left has gone too far, we must vote for parties that will secure a future for white people.
– Elon Musk, probably
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u/Finance_Willing 2h ago
This is the type of rich guy I want to be. Make my millions and dip I don’t need more
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u/evlhornet 2h ago
Had an idea, took a chance, hit the lottery, made more than enough, did what most of us would do.
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u/SporkydaDork 2h ago
The reality is he was not able to compete with the changing environment so he was not able to obtain the power to continue that level of growth that corrupts one's mind.
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u/OnTheEveOfWar 2h ago
I remember coming across his instagram. He’s big into photography and just travels around the world to exotic locations taking cool pictures. Dude is living the life.
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u/GloryHound29 2h ago
Best part, he got shit ton of money from Rupert Murdoch, and MySpace ended up tanking, costing Murdoch a cool billion.
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u/Plasticious 2h ago edited 2h ago
https://youtu.be/QrW4Z8qkBVI?is=WE3glID1c1JEQzY-
„I feel like Tom from MySpace, when she comes back to my place!“
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u/f_djt_and_the_usa 2h ago
Why the fuck would you not stop working when you don't need to and live well?
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u/OodlesofNoodles_64 1h ago
I bloody love this for Myspace Tom, I always wonder how he's doing and now I know it's very well. This was when social media started out as a good thing 🙃
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u/WestcoastAlex 1h ago
let this be a lesson to everyone out there...
the next Revolution witll be turning off
tech billionaires will lose their riches just as fast as they made it
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u/SectorSad1543 1h ago
Tom is still online, he travels the world and takes pictures. He's pretty god at it.
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u/StaticSystemShock 1h ago
I never had MySpace even though I was existing in its prime time, but I'm happy for this dude.
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u/Gloomy-Insurance-739 1h ago
Yeah 100% anyone who doesn't do this is broken their mind their soul their heart is broken this endless greed... it's a sickness that's what it is.
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u/AlbertTheHorse 1h ago
Yeah, they are too busy flying to islands to assault children.
How sick is that they could have anything and choose that?
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u/HarithBK 1h ago
most people make there money and peace out the reason we don't see people making billions doing it that is things normally doesn't grow that quickly so they peace out way before that. the thing is you really "only" need like 5 million. you just buy a house and a modest care and put there rest in the stock market and live off the growth.
i have worked on some houses and worked with some people who sold and made that. the guy we rented skylifts from sold his company for 10 million, had to continue working there for 2 years kinda funny when he would roll up in his AMG to fix a skylift without power bitching at us about it.
i did plumbing in a new build as well he had 2 inspectors and would tour the house every day after we were done. it was a very normal sized house with normal features just using proper premium materials (not the expensive since rare material) and best practice building everywhere. money or taking longer to build wasn't an issue it was just about it all being 100% correct and flawlessly built. the final cost wasn't even that much higher than estimated it looked like a 400-500k house quote was for 700k but budget ran over to 800k with changes and redos. but then the house was a model home.
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u/DigitalCoffee 1h ago
Bro is still the top 1% you all claim to hate. Have some consistency
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u/dvdmaven 1h ago
Enough is best. I retired at 52 with a paid off house and enough for my retirement. 22 years later, it's still enough.
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u/thesip 1h ago
Is he even a billionaire? Google says he sold it for like $50m. I guess in theory he could be by now if he invested all of it in Sandisk 6 months ago.
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u/Superb_Cicada6414 59m ago
I love how we celebrate the financial success of one human who literally fucks up the lives of thousands in their wake.
We Americans love our fucking moral-less entrepreneurs
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u/Superb_Cicada6414 59m ago
I love how we celebrate the financial success of one human who literally fucks up the lives of thousands in their wake.
We Americans love our fucking moral-less entrepreneurs
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u/deaglebingo 44m ago
fuck. i have enough almost. all i need is some money to be able to use it. a house a boat a car a truck? would be great to be able to afford to fix the stuff and use it, to have healthcare... but that's beside the point.. the biggest part of all this is why exactly should someone else not be able to have the same? there are nitpickers of course... always.. and refinement of "having the same", maybe the future definition isn't everyone has 2 vehicles or whatever... but the point stands.. everyone should be able to have all those things. and lower middle class etc ppl need to stop believing the lie that they have to give those things up so that others can have the same or similar if they want. the people who need to give are the ones who have it all and refuse to. the ones with more than anyone could ever possibly need x1000. if they refuse willingly force is all we have.
to paraphrase the proj 2025 fuckers... this revolution can be bloodless if billionaires submit willingly... realizing that even after they share some they will still have more money than jesus christ himself.
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u/ekjohnson9 42m ago
Less wealthy than the current social media founders
Less influential
Less powerful
More liked by a spam account on a website. Wow such a flex!
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u/A2Rhombus 40m ago
What's crazy is he still has enough money that I'd consider him ultra rich, and yet his net worth is 0.0075% of elon musk's
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u/MattintheMtns 38m ago
How many people know Steven is quoting the famous Kurt Vonnegut/ Joseph Heller story? It’s a classic!
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u/MembershipHonest4000 34m ago
Hell if i had a billion, they would only find me on my private island with my 10 concubines
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u/One-Earth9294 21m ago
It's a very rare thing that someone makes THAT much money and fucks off to do the things they always wanted to do in life.
Because usually when someone makes that much money it's because 'making money' was the thing they always wanted to do in life.
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u/SinesPi 19m ago
Generally speaking, billionaires don't become billionaires because they're in it for the money, per se.
They're in it for the game. Money isn't really something you get so you can spend it (that's nice) but because it's a high score. A measurement of success. A point-value that can always go higher if they try harder, refine their game, and do more.
This is not me speaking of them as good people, lest I get a flood of people decrying me. It's just an understanding of their psyche. They can never get enough not because they need money to spend, but because business is their hobby, their motivation and their passion. It motivates them like watching movies motivates a film buff. It's just that the film buff has to take time off to go to work, whereas the billionaire is already doing what they love. Or rather, if the film buff becomes a very good director, then he's in the same position. Wealthy doing what he loves.
Most people who only want money for financial security (and maybe a small island) don't become billionaires, because they can quit their job to get everything they wanted to before that. Only a tiny number of people become billionaires by 'accident', or by simply following a non-business passion to the point where they just naturally make that much money.
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u/Lie-Straight 7m ago
How much is enough? $3.8 million? Buy a house and cars for $800k, and keep $3 million in the market so you can withdraw 4% ($120k) every year forever ?
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